Nate Phelps, estranged son of Fred Phelps, said that much of the public, including many Christians, didn't say much when his family was protesting at the funerals of gays. It wasn't until the Phelpses started protesting at military funerals that people got really upset. "To me that says something about whether the other side of Christianity is all that desirable, is all that caring," he told the Topeka Capital Journal. "They're willing to stand by and let it happen as long as they also were against the group the church was attacking." As to why Phelps became an atheist rather than a more moderate Christian, Phelps said: "The same Bible moderate Christians use to say God loves is the same Bible my father uses to say God hates. Both views are in there. I couldn't pick and choose what I believe God is. If it is God's word, then you have to look at all of it. That being said, I am grateful most Christians see the Bible as a work of love, redemption and sacrifice."