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Self grows weary of talk surrounding Embiid, NBA

  • The Wichita Eagle
  • Published Friday, Feb. 7, 2014, at 6:44 p.m.
  • Updated Friday, Feb. 7, 2014, at 8:56 p.m.


West Virginia at No. 8 Kansas

When: 3 p.m.

Where: Allen Fieldhouse, Lawrence

Records: West Virginia 14-9, 6-4 Big 12; Kansas 17-5, 8-1

Radio: KFH 1240-AM, 98.7-FM



PW. VirginiaHt.Yr.PtsReb
FDevin Williams6-9Fr.8.87.3
FRemi Dibo6-7Jr..7.33.2
FTerry Henderson6-4So.12.53.0
GEron Harris6-3So.17.53.7
G Juwan Staten6-1Jr..18.1x-6.0
CJoel Embiid7-0Fr.10.97.6
FPerry Ellis6-8So.13.26.7
GAndrew Wiggins6-8Fr.15.96.0
GWayne Selden6-5Fr.10.22.6
G Naadir Tharpe5-11Jr.9.x-5.2


West Virginia (14-9, 6-4 Big 12): The Mountaineers are starting to find their footing in the Big 12 after struggling through year one in the league. The turnaround has started with junior guard Juwan Staten, who is averaging 18 points, six rebounds and six per assists per game. Last year, Staten averaged just 7.6 points and 2.9 boards per contest. Amazingly, Staten is playing more than 40 minutes per game in Big 12 play. “He plays bigger than his standing height,” KU coach Bill Self said. “He's strong, and of course he puts so much pressure on you with the ball coming at you.” Staten’s main wingman in the backcourt is Eron Harris, who is averaging 17.5 points while shooting 42.7 percent from the field.

Kansas (17-5, 8-1): Kansas is coming off one of its most impressive defensive performances of the season, holding Baylor to a season-low 52 points and 29.1 percent shooting in Waco on Tuesday. The Jayhawks should face another tough test in West Virginia, which ranks 27th nationally in offensive efficiency. Bill Self praised freshman Wayne Selden’s defensive work in shutting down Baylor sharpshooter Brady Heslip. This time, Selden will probably be forced with the task of covering West Virginia marksman Eron Harris. “I wouldn't put us against some of the great defensive teams we've had here in the past,” Self said. “But I'd certainly put us in a category that we can get really good, and we're not quite there yet.”

RPIs as of Friday: WVU 71, KU 1.

— At some point over the next couple weeks, KU basketball coach Bill Self and Joel Embiid will talk about the future. We know this because Self says they will. Nothing formal. Nothing official. Just a coach trying to gauge what his player is thinking: Will Embiid, a freshman center, be back for his sophomore season, or is he leaning toward leaving for the NBA Draft?

These sort of conversations are not new, Self says, nor are they unique to Embiid, a rising star who could be the No. 1 overall pick after playing basketball for just three years. More to the point: Whatever Embiid happens to say the next time they talk, Self won’t put too much stock in it.

“Regardless of what they tell us,” Self says, “we’ve had kids tell us for sure they’re positively coming back and leave. We’ve had kids say they’re positively staying and they transfer.

“A lot of times what they say really doesn’t have much bearing on how you should prepare.”

So here it is early February, and the Embiid question is already among the most fascinating surrounding No. 8 Kansas, which will face West Virginia at 3 p.m. on Saturday at Allen Fieldhouse. Could a 7-foot center slated to be a top pick actually return to school for another year?

For the most part, the answer is unknowable, and the question may be premature. As Self says, the only person that really knows the answer to that question is Embiid. And what does it matter what he says in February anyway?

But this is the way the process works, so fan and media read the tea leaves from a season of quotes, dissecting them for any deeper meaning.

From mid-October, in an interview with The Eagle: “I don’t pay attention to (draft talk).”

From late January, in an interview with ESPN.com’s Dana O’Neil: “ All of the great big men went to college at least two or three years. I think it’s a big factor.”

And from earlier this week: “I could come back, but I am not thinking about that right now.”

Back in October, KU freshman Andrew Wiggins made it quite clear that he would be in college for one season. There would be no charade.

But inside the KU program, many expected Embiid to always be at least a two-year player. So as his meteoric rise continues, the NBA questions persist.

The chatter increased during Kansas’ win at Baylor on Tuesday, when ESPN sideline reporter Jeff Goodman said that Embiid had told him that he was “definitely considering coming back to school.”

In the moments after the game, Self grew visibly irritated when the report came up, questioning its actual news value.

“What else could Joel say?” Self said.

For Self, this is among the most frustrating parts of the process. Embiid, who is averaging 10.9 points and 7.6 rebounds per game, has cemented himself as a near lock for the lottery. But Self dislikes the way college players are often viewed through an NBA prism, their draft stock rising and falling on a daily basis.

“It’s ridiculous that the so-called media people that cover it can’t let the kids just be college kids,” Self said. “That, to me, is ridiculous. You have one guy play one good game, and all of a sudden he moves up on the draft board. Well, that may be true in one writer’s name. But that’s not the way the NBA sees it. They’re going to see the kid play 20 times.”

But while the chatter can sometimes descend into empty speculation, Self still has to plan ahead. There are great benefits to having a lottery pick for one season.

No college coach would say no to a 7-foot rim protector with length and coordination.

But college coaches always have to worry about next season, too. The Jayhawks are currently still recruiting Texas high school center Myles Turner, another player with one-and-done potential. For obvious reasons, Turner might not be so keen on coming to KU if Embiid is still on the roster.

“I guarantee you if Joe says that he’s leaving or staying, it makes no difference,” Self said of his recruiting strategy. “We’d better have one (recruit) ready in case he does decide to go.”

On Friday, Self said he liked how next season’s roster was shaping up — no matter what Embiid decides to do. But mostly, Self just wants Embiid to enjoy these next two months. February can be a month for distractions among college basketball’s elite. Third parties, often runners for agents, will start trying to make contact with players and their families. Players begin to look to the future.

“If you’re in that position,” Self said, “you should just take a deep breath and enjoy it and let it play out as opposed to trying to force feed it. … When you try to force feed it, it very rarely plays out the way that you had expected it to.”

So the process continues, and Embiid keeps thinking about his future, Self will make a Plan B. On Friday, as his Jayhawks stood at 8-1 in the Big 12, still on track for a 10th straight Big 12 title, he offered this story.

Last year, few inside the KU program expected Ben McLemore to be a one-and-done player. But then he blew up, and the choice was made: McLemore had to leave.

So Self went out and signed Andrew Wiggins.

“I’m not sure we would have got Wiggs,” Self said, “if he would have stayed.”

Reach Rustin Dodd at rdodd@wichitaeagle.com. Follow him on Twitter: @rustindodd.

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